[From Adam Lyndsey] If your in the UK, then you may be pleased to know that the Treo 500v is available to pre-order. :"The new Palm® Treo™ 500v smartphone lets you say what you want, how you want with phone, messaging, IM, email and web in one simple device. No more code words or misunderstandings thanks to the full keyboard and a big, bright screen. Expected launch date – October 5th" So expected launch date is tomorrow and you can already check prices in comparison to the smartphone. You can make the jump to the Vodafone website to check the dates.